“Make it we and not I – if it becomes we, it becomes a movement”

Global Youth Ambassadors, Sarah Brown

In the latest episode of her Better Angels podcast, 国产视频 President Sarah Brown talks about campaigning to David Mixner, Christy Turlington Burns, Kevin Watkins and Shazia Ramzan.


How can we take action to make a difference? How can we speak up to right a wrong?

These are the questions 国产视频 President Sarah Brown explores in the latest episode of her Better Angels podcast series by talking to four听people who have made a huge impact for their personal causes and passions.

They are听David Mixner,听civil rights activist, prominent LGBT campaigner and best-selling author;听Christy Turlington Burns,听supermodel and maternal health campaigner;听Kevin Watkins,听the听CEO of Save The Children UK and leading international development thinker; and听Shazia Ramzan,听young education campaigner and a 国产视频 Global Youth Ambassador.

You can listen to the full听episode here国产视频

David talks about his life in advocacy and human rights campaigning.

He says: 国产视频淚国产视频檝e learned that if you can keep your ego out and if you always make it we and not I 国产视频撎齜ecause when it becomes I you set yourself up as a target. If it becomes we, it becomes a movement.

国产视频淎nd the purpose of a movement is change 国产视频撎齨ot to punish people who might not come as听quickly to the听realisation of freedom as others might, but to welcome them, that they have had the wisdom to change their minds on a particular issue.

国产视频淭hat国产视频檚 the purpose of a movement and we should never forget that.国产视频

He adds:听国产视频淵ou can国产视频檛 be alone. You can国产视频檛 live in fear.

国产视频淏ecause if you live in fear you will always be that person at the back of the room that no one国产视频檚 listening to.国产视频

Christy is asked about her shift听from 国产视频渕odel with a cause国产视频 to fully-fledged campaigner. She talks about her听Every Mother Counts charity and about how thousands of听people have听run marathons to support the cause wearing the organisation国产视频檚听orange colours.

国产视频淚 started running because of Every Mother Counts actually. I wasn国产视频檛 really a runner,国产视频 she says.

国产视频淎s soon as I started training for my first marathon it dawned on me that there was such a opportunity there with communicating distance as one of the biggest barriers for so many women to access care.

国产视频淚t became so built into what we were trying to do and it国产视频檚 also a great way for people to participate.国产视频

Kevin talks about his experience of听travelling and working in developing countries in his various roles with charities and organisations.

国产视频The amazing thing about these people is they do not give up hope,国产视频 he says. 国产视频淵ou go and talk to anyone in a rural village, in an urban slum, these are people with hope.

国产视频淚 always find it utterly extraordinary and actually very moving. You go to a refugee camp, you speak to kids who have seen friends killed, who have lost family members, who have been bombed, who will sit there and look you in the eye and tell you they are going to be an engineer.

国产视频淭hat is the human spirit in operation. We need to get behind these people. That is what solidarity is about.国产视频

Shazia was with her friends听Malala Yousafzai and Kainat Riaz when they were all shot by the Taliban听on their school bus in Pakistan in 2012.

Now 18, she is at school in the United Kingdom and plans听to go to university to become a nurse.

Asked about her trips back to Pakistan, Shazia says:国产视频淚 see quite a few changes and I see girls are more confident. I feel like we have changed something.

国产视频淣ot just me, Kainat and Malala 国产视频 there are others who are trying to change these ideas.国产视频

On how individuals can help to bring about change, she says:听国产视频淚f we see something is wrong, if I am speaking and no one wants to listen to me then I speak to my community people and we听meet 国产视频 and then we all as a group come together. It makes us stronger.

国产视频淚f you see something don国产视频檛 be silent. You are the one who can do something. If you don国产视频檛 do something then there will be no one here who will do it.国产视频

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